Hi Martin, our apprentices have completed their schooling in Australia prior to commencing their apprenticeship. As apprentices they are fully employed and only come to TAFE for vocational training or education during a couple of blocks of 3-4 weeks each a year. They do not do any non-work related competencies at TAFE.
Hi Stephen, do the apprentices have choose what courses to take during the period at TAFE or is it according to a curriculum? When doing those weeks in school I guess they can fail. How do you go about to get them a chance to get it right? And what are the implications on their part, work wise, if they do fail. Can the loose their apprenticeship?
The curriculum is a set training plan and we don't offer any alternative paths. When I worked in New South Wales TAFE we offered two streams or electives in their third year. The two alternatives were PLCs or Telecommunications. The Telecommunications was normally taken by contractors doing installation work, and PLCs by apprentices working in the mining or power generation industries. Here at Bundaberg we only offer PLCs regardless of the apprentices employment or what their employer wants.
The apprentices are booked into various blocks by TAFE and have set competencies to complete each block. They are allowed two attempts at every assessment. If they fail both attempts we record a fail result. The apprentice has to come back and complete the block and assessments again.
If an apprentice fails it is up to their employer to determine if they should continue. I have known of instances where apprentices have lost their job, though, it is not normally due only to their performance at TAFE. In most cases the apprentices have a number of problems that cause them to lose their jobs.
Hi Daniel, please refer to my reply to Martin on 21st April above to answer part of your question.
We teach apprentices who are fully employed in the electrical trade, they are not school based students. They complete a four year electrical apprenticeship and attend TAFE during this apprenticeship. At the end of the apprenticeship they complete a final theory and practical test. Once they have passed the test and have completed all their record keeping to show they have completed all competencies, by demonstrating both theory knowledge at TAFE and skills on the job, they can apply for an electrical license.
A good share of cables there:) As you refer to the students as apprentices, how are the division between work place and school?
ReplyDeleteHi Martin, our apprentices have completed their schooling in Australia prior to commencing their apprenticeship. As apprentices they are fully employed and only come to TAFE for vocational training or education during a couple of blocks of 3-4 weeks each a year. They do not do any non-work related competencies at TAFE.
DeleteHi Stephen, do the apprentices have choose what courses to take during the period at TAFE or is it according to a curriculum? When doing those weeks in school I guess they can fail. How do you go about to get them a chance to get it right? And what are the implications on their part, work wise, if they do fail. Can the loose their apprenticeship?
ReplyDeleteThe curriculum is a set training plan and we don't offer any alternative paths. When I worked in New South Wales TAFE we offered two streams or electives in their third year. The two alternatives were PLCs or Telecommunications. The Telecommunications was normally taken by contractors doing installation work, and PLCs by apprentices working in the mining or power generation industries. Here at Bundaberg we only offer PLCs regardless of the apprentices employment or what their employer wants.
DeleteThe apprentices are booked into various blocks by TAFE and have set competencies to complete each block. They are allowed two attempts at every assessment. If they fail both attempts we record a fail result. The apprentice has to come back and complete the block and assessments again.
If an apprentice fails it is up to their employer to determine if they should continue. I have known of instances where apprentices have lost their job, though, it is not normally due only to their performance at TAFE. In most cases the apprentices have a number of problems that cause them to lose their jobs.
Do the students have any workbased learning period?
ReplyDeleteHi Daniel, please refer to my reply to Martin on 21st April above to answer part of your question.
DeleteWe teach apprentices who are fully employed in the electrical trade, they are not school based students. They complete a four year electrical apprenticeship and attend TAFE during this apprenticeship. At the end of the apprenticeship they complete a final theory and practical test. Once they have passed the test and have completed all their record keeping to show they have completed all competencies, by demonstrating both theory knowledge at TAFE and skills on the job, they can apply for an electrical license.